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 Post subject: Tradish You tube Videos
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:05 am 
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Hi Guys ive just uploaded some more tradish one is on a Frankie Lane magoin the key of D and a slower yidaki style based on the slower elements i have heard on field recordings and also the sections on Djalu teaches 1 and 2 CD's for example when the Dolphins enter and get pecked by the birds. Just wondered what you guys thought?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu9g93PWNXM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebrquKWRydo

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 Post subject: Re: Tradish You tube Videos
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:49 pm 
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I prefer your mago playing, the mago-style rhythm sounds ok but I'd love to hear you on a better stick.

The Dolphin tune doesn't really do much for me, are you sure that's Dolphin?!?

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 Post subject: Re: Tradish You tube Videos
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ididjaustralia wrote:
I prefer your mago playing, the mago-style rhythm sounds ok but I'd love to hear you on a better stick.

The Dolphin tune doesn't really do much for me, are you sure that's Dolphin?!?

Guan


Hi Guan

cheers for the comments its not Dolphin per say as I aint trying to copy a song pattern merly the style. so you could say that its dolphin esq LOL. it also has elements of the calming waters section of the Djalu teaches 2 cd from tracks 17ish through to the mid 20's thats where I got the influence and also a mash up of a bit of one of the licks from Jeremy Cloake Balanda CD as well.

And Mago I do like that little mago its a good all rounder for contemp styles as well what do you think is up with the stick this below is me doing a quick piece on a Mr Cameron stick in the key of C# please bare in mind that I hadent actually waremed me or the stick up when I recorded this piece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdvsN6evojM


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 Post subject: Re: Tradish You tube Videos
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Hi Stockie,

I like the Frankie Lane better of the 2 mago, there's more snap to it than the Ambrose, tis pretty hard to find a good low key mago that's for sure.

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Hi Guys

this is the type of thing I was aiming for? any suggestions to my ear it sounds pretty close as I have played both together and they seem to be similar?

I was trying to go for the Calming waters (wapurarr gapu)/Dolphin (yinydjapana) and Mangrove Driftwood (wuduku) style of playing on Djalu teaches cd 2 around tracks 18 through to mid 20's and around track 34 ish. there are also some similar tracks on cd 1 I think played by Larry with some vocal dog bark type sounds (again driftwood/ Wuduku) track 35 on CD 1.


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Hi
Stockie has inspired me to whack a few of my WAL low/lowish key sound files on here

A Russel Brian D a Frankie Lane D and a M***Y H**L Eb


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Hi Stockie,

Try playing the exact rhythm as in Wapurarr, it is a nice easy regular tune. The one you uploaded to YouTube of Dolphin sounds like a mash-up and not really recognisable as traditional except for some elements in there. I can comment on actual technique then if you do straight Wapurarr.

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Hi Guys

this is the type of thing I was aiming for? any suggestions to my ear it sounds pretty close as I have played both together and they seem to be similar?

I was trying to go for the Calming waters (wapurarr gapu)/Dolphin (yinydjapana) and Mangrove Driftwood (wuduku) style of playing on Djalu teaches cd 2 around tracks 18 through to mid 20's and around track 34 ish. there are also some similar tracks on cd 1 I think played by Larry with some vocal dog bark type sounds (again driftwood/ Wuduku) track 35 on CD 1.

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Good one Paul, the last tune is lovely!

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The one you uploaded to YouTube of Dolphin sounds like a mash-up and not really recognisable as traditional except for some elements in there.


Cheers for the comments my friend I value all comments on my playing as it helps me improve and we can all get better and better, so can I take it from this that im from my point of view bang on the money let me try and explain a little about why I love trad styles and please dont take this as a rant as it aint ment to be just where im trying to come from like wise men from the east bearing gifts I only got gold left as I smoked the frank and mer LOL.

Im trying to emulate the overall style of playing and make it as people in the music industry tell everyone to make it your own.

I wouldnt like to copy any style directly as I like to freestyle and work on my playing from the way that people like Jeremy Cloake, Ben Hicks and others seem to be getting at about taking Ylongu styles and making them your own (as I imagine someone aboriginal would do from a different clan when it comes to ceromoney and telling stories the colective dreaming side of things etc).

I do this as just simply copying is plajerism, and I think a bit of a cheek as its their story and not mine as a great man once said and could be a bit dis respectful (in my mind) as im not from Arnehm land, not Aboriginal and not even from Oz, and have no image of what say for example the story is all about (this is just a gen point of view and personal to me) as I have never been to the land the story is about or seen the cave or the tree or the rock etc etc that aboriginal story and ceremony refs to (which ever story that is).

I ackin it to writing extracts from say Canterbury tales and ive only been to Canterbury twice (is this making any sence in writing I know what im trying to say and hopefully its coming across that way in a loving kinda way HEE HEE) and defo never met Geoffrey Chaucer ha ha.

basically what im trying to say in a nut shell is that when I play a stick in a trad way im never gonna be a traditional player because the simple fact is im a white european from the northern hemosphere that has the utmost respect for a culture I know very little about but have been exposed to little by little over the years through TV, film and music (thanks rolf and Mr Blanasi).

hence I call it "Tradish" and hope that my playing comes across like that I cross everything inc fingures and toes. dont know if anyone else has this sort of thing floating around in their heads if they do let me know or I might feel very very silly otherwise.

Ta for listening never really shared that with anyone about my trad didge playing before really

and im gonna try and do at some point just for Guan some higher pitched mago when I get a spare min but may not be for a while (its us brits we just love it deep (mago that is).

and nice pieces Paul


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ididjaustralia wrote:
Good one Paul, the last tune is lovely!

Guan


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